SPN 9x04

Oct. 29th, 2013 10:26 pm
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Oh joy, my fannish heart.  That was a pretty solid MotW episode with a little bit of everything: nods to the mytharc, some back story, opening up the MoL's world, a nice SPN twist on an American fairy tale (how fitting), but most of all joining up details and answering questions that only an ardent SPN fan would know (the MoL chess board from when Sam and Dean first discovered the bunker, the key that Dean was looking at a million episodes ago, Sam's bedroom, finally a home for Baby (OMG motorcycles!), the angel war desk from 8x23, and Sam's very appropriate feelings about work and "home").  I appreciated the details involved in reconciling "The Wizard of Oz" story with SPN's version, esp. the idea of Oz being accessible not only through tornadoes but other sprial-y things like hurricanes and whirlpools, and then the Wicked Witches' smoke form was all spiral-y.  I liked the nods to GoT ("the pointy end."), and I wonder if JP saying at Comic-Con that he was going to watch it coincided with filming this episode.  But most of all, I loved the idea of Charlie and Dorothy on an all-girls' kick-ass adventure in Oz!  Robbie Thompson sent her off in style, soundtrack included.  :)  And, I think, it was the perfect way to deal with her character; it allowed the possibility of a spectacular return, saved Charlie from the fate of most hunters (I'd really hate to see her have a lonely, bitter, tragic end), but provided her with an adventure of her choosing that strangely made sense with where her character development was going.  I can't wait for her to pop back into SPN with tales of her quest, but even if she doesn't make it back onto the screen, strangely Charlie's story feels satisfying and complete to me.  This episode felt very much like it was written with a complete respect, fondness, and understanding of the SPN world--or at least the detail-oriented part--such that it felt almost like a tribute to anyone who cares about this show (not to mention the note on the title card).  With the departure of Edlund, I was so worried, but it looks like Robbie Thompson might be able to help keep this ship afloat.  More please.

Date: 2013-10-30 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thursdaysisters.livejournal.com
But OH Mister Edlund (and his stoner jokes) will be missed

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Date: 2013-10-30 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bowtrunckle.livejournal.com
Yes, always, and the stoner jokes especially. I always liked his interviews, too. He was always so chill and then he'd do this almost private little giggle like he was the only person in on the joke. I just want him to COME BACK to SPN.

Date: 2013-10-30 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] growyourwings.livejournal.com
I also really loved this ep. Even the cheesy parts; especially the cheesy parts. Reminded me so much of the old monster movies I used to watch. LOVEd it.

Date: 2013-10-30 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bowtrunckle.livejournal.com
Reminded me so much of the old monster movies I used to watch.

Singer directed "Monster Movie" too, which had the same sort of feel camera-wise. I loved the whole old school dialogue and the "innocent" sexist attitudes lent an air of authenticity (even though that's exactly why I couldn't watch "Mad Men").

This was a fun episode. It reminded me of what this show can be. :)

Date: 2013-10-30 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassiopeia7.livejournal.com
it was the perfect way to deal with her character; it allowed the possibility of a spectacular return, saved Charlie from the fate of most hunters (I'd really hate to see her have a lonely, bitter, tragic end), but provided her with an adventure of her choosing that strangely made sense with where her character development was going.

Oh, thank you for this. I was all upset at losing Charlie to Oz, but yup, she just got saved from the horrible life of a hunter.

And yes, I LOVED this episode!

Date: 2013-10-30 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bowtrunckle.livejournal.com
Oooo, shine-y shoe icon! So appropriate. :)

she just got saved from the horrible life of a hunter.

This was the best thing, I think. Charlie's character is too far down the character-development road to suddenly become static, so nonOzhunter!Charlie would have to lose some of what makes her so refreshing. And she has such an effervescent personality that just suits fairy tale adventures. There's quirky Garth where the downtroddenness (is that even a word?!) of hunting life just seems to roll off his back, but I feel like he's more for comic relief (so far) rather than a fully realized character.
Edited Date: 2013-10-30 02:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-10-30 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hugemind.livejournal.com
Oh yes, all of this! And Robbie Thompson really gave a good episode. To me it even felt like it had some Edlundian feel to it (most likely crack). There was just so much stuff packed into one episode and I loved that Charlie got to have a quest of her own.

but provided her with an adventure of her choosing that strangely made sense with where her character development was going. I can't wait for her to pop back into SPN with tales of her quest, but even if she doesn't make it back onto the screen, strangely Charlie's story feels satisfying and complete to me.

Exactly! I fully expect to see Charlie back at some point, but this was a great thing for her character arc.
Edited Date: 2013-10-30 03:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-10-30 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bowtrunckle.livejournal.com
it even felt like it had some Edlundian feel to it

The whimsical premise especially. I thought the merging of the Wizard of Oz world and SPN's universe was cleverly done. It gave me the impression that a lot of thought went into how, when, where, and why this was going to all happen and that there's back story and tidbits that never made it onto the page. Also, RT seems like a major fanboy, something that I always appreciate.

Date: 2013-10-31 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's a good point--in SPN's world, an adventure usually leaves you broken and hopeless, but in the world of Oz, it can have the magic she seeks.

I agree with everything you say here--I think you're the only other person on my f-list who actually liked this ep!

I miss Edlund terribly, but I think Thompson is probably the next-best writer still on the staff.

Date: 2013-10-31 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bowtrunckle.livejournal.com
I think you're the only other person on my f-list who actually liked this ep!

Oh no. :( Interesting, though, that I've yet to read a negative episode reaction post for this episode on my flist (but I keep my flist quite small). I suppose it just depends on which SPN fandom circles you're part of. Out of curiosity, what generally did people not like about it?

Date: 2013-10-31 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightly-lit.livejournal.com
Uhm, let's see. They thought it was too wordy and curtain-fic-y. They found the wicked witch lame. They pointed out some of the continuity problems (which I thought were less obvious in this ep than in many others). They thought some of the Sam "this isn't my home" stuff was anvil-y. They thought Charlie was too precious. They thought the explanation of Kevin's absence made no sense. And ... I could go on. Some of them HATED it. :-}

Date: 2013-11-06 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bowtrunckle.livejournal.com
O.O

And the great thing about fandom is that we can love what we love and leave all the rest. And I feel like this fandom is decently diverse, so those who feel a certain way can stick together and have their own parties.

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